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Discussion for Today

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This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_September_20


September 20

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NEW NOMINATIONS

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Category:Regional WikiProjects

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Nominator's rationale: Even if there is some kind of distinction here, this seems very minimal with a huge overlap (when categorized correctly). Gonnym (talk) 16:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I will tag Category:WikiProjects by region; comments in general are needed to form consensus.
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Category:1982 Japanese television episodes

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Nominator's rationale: Categories newly created just to hold redirects. These would be fine if there were actual articles about Japanese or German television episodes from these years to file here, but are not needed just to hold redirects to television series. Bearcat (talk) 15:45, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose This has only just been created. Allow a chance for it be populated rather than just delete it straight away. Also what is wrong with a category composed of redirects? --Jameboy (talk) 15:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Allow a chance for it to be populated" with what? The content has to exist first, and then the category to contain said content comes second, not vice versa. And the purpose of categories is to help readers find articles, not redirects — so while redirects can be included where appropriate in categories that also contain articles, categories that exist exclusively to hold redirects without articles are done only as hidden project tracking categories, and not as end-user browsing categories. I mean, if we just exhaustively created a redirect from every episode title that has ever existed to the television series it was an episode of, and categorized them all here, then how would that be helpful to a reader at all? Episode categories in the mainspace tree need to contain at least some actual standalone articles about the episodes themselves to be useful, and are simply not needed just to hold redirects. Bearcat (talk) 15:57, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is there a link to a relevant guideline concerning the above? I looked at WP:ACATR and WP:RCAT and couldn't find anything that would prevent a category from containing only redirects. --Jameboy (talk) 18:17, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The intro of WP:CAT says that "the central goal of the category system is to provide navigational links to pages in Wikipedia within a hierarchy of categories". To, not between. Pages, not articles. It's true that most redirects aren't categorized in user-facing categories but WP:ACATR does allow for this in some specific circumstances and I think this falls under that. --Jameboy (talk) 20:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: More participants are needed to form consensus.
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Category:Pentose phosphate pathway

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Nominator's rationale: Can someone take a look at these category (as well as others by DinosaursLoveExistence (talk · contribs)? I don't know enough chemistry to really evaluate whether this is actually defining or just more examples of non-defining/overcategorization by the same creator. Mason (talk) 01:50, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I'll drop a more urgent note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Molecular Biology. If there are no further comments in a week, I would close this as unopposed. But I really think the discussion would benefit from subject-matter experts' comments.
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  • Categorizing an enzyme or molecule as participating in primary metabolism pathways makes a lot of sense. These metabolic pathways are essentially what powers cellular life and enzymes or molecules are usually described in that context in reliable sources - i.e. these enzymes/molecules are essential to life as they take part in [EXAMPLE] pathway. To me that sounds like a defining trait.
Examples from Wikipedia:
Enzyme/molecule Metabolic Pathway
Glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase Pentose phosphate pathway
Pyruvate dehydrogenase complex Citric acid cycle
Fructose-bisphosphate aldolase Gluconeogenesis/Calvin cycle/Glycolysis
Glucose 6-phosphate Glycolysis/Pentose phosphate pathway
Of course, there are plenty of small molecules that are not defined by a primary metabolic pathway, but these are usually either the inputs or outputs of these pathways and can be categorized separately. ― Synpath 17:53, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisting comment: Thoughts on Synpath's comment?
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Category:Films about couples

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Nominator's rationale: Far too broad, and covered by categories for romance films, buddy films, etc. How many films are not about couples? A minority. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:51, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Populated places in the Middle East

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Nominator's rationale: the Middle East and West Asia are very overlapping. All subcategories are already in Category:Populated places in West Asia. Sakakami (talk) 18:53, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Anomalous+0's comment?
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Category:Religion in the Middle East

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Nominator's rationale: West Asia and the Middle East largely overlap, so we do not need both category trees. It is better to keep West Asia because it is consistent with other subcategories in Category:Religion in Asia by region. Sakakami (talk) 18:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge or reverse merge per nom and rename dependent on the merge direction. There is also this discussion which is still open. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strongly oppose - The reason these categories "largely overlap" is entirely because the regions themselves "largely overlap". An incovenient fact, perhaps, but a reality that Wikipedia is bound to respect - and that our categories must reflect. (There are many other overlapping category trees that we maintain simply because they reflect aspects of the real world.) Furthermore, the term "Middle East" is well-known to the great majority of readers, who are unlikely to be familiar with the term "West Asia". Anomalous+0 (talk) 07:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Anomalous+0's comment?
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Category:First-person shooter multiplayer online games

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Nominator's rationale: This is a though one, but there are multiple reasons why this long-lasting category might not be as defining as everyone has once thought.

FPSMOGs are not a legitimate sub-genre of first-person shooters, while MMOFPSs considered one and Wikipedia has their own article on it. More importantly, most games in the FPS genre as whole will have online multiplayer, making it even more non-defining. This category isn't an entirely non-diffusing category and is also one of the only categories at the moment combing a genre and multiplayer online games.

This merge may make navigation harder, both the MOGs and FPS categories will contain 35-45 more articles, and that's okay. And besides not every single title that would fit into this category has been added here anyway.

For the subcategories we will instead replace the MMOFPSs category with category:Multiplayer online games and category:First-person shooters by series. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:03, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • question. okay, i see that you admit above that yes, there are many games that fall within this genre. ok. so your suggestion is that maybe we do not need a category to indicate them as multiplayer? i thought the category structure can encompass any valid distinctions. but is it truly the case that almost all fps games are multiplayer? if so, then maybe this suggestion would be viable. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Point of information. Of course many FPS games are MOGs! an MOG game is any game that takes place over a single round, and is not a persistent world. that is exactly what most fps games actually are!! such as Call of Duty, Doom (video game), Battlefield 2, etc etc! are you saying they are not?
Sm8900 (talk) 15:22, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: More participation needed to achieve consensus.
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Category:Military humor in film

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Nominator's rationale: The category groups films by the distinct genre, name of which seems to be established at this point and supported by sources like [1]. And also the parallel category to this is Category:Military comedy television series. Solidest (talk) 14:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Purge in addition to renaming?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also purge?
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Category:Compositions by Alexandre Desplat

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Nominator's rationale: The category contains only Category:Films scored by Alexandre Desplat and List of awards and nominations received by Alexandre Desplat, the latter of which I removed from Category:Compositions by Alexandre Desplat for being inappriopriate. It now has only one entry, and such categories should be deleted. Mr slav999 (talk) 17:08, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:American convicts who became writers

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Nominator's rationale: Non-defining/narrow intersection between occupation, criminal status, and nationality. Mason (talk) 02:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Rename? Broaden while renaming?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same question: Rename? Broaden while renaming?
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Category:Novels about Go

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Nominator's rationale: Dual merge per WP:NARROWCAT. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Films about neuropathology

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Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category Mason (talk) 17:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge target?
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Quibbling about whether its contents belong in there is an irrelevance to the existence of the category. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Merge target? This is heading for a WP:BARTENDER close, which is less than ideal.
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Category:Spanish anarcho-syndicalists

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Nominator's rationale: Redundant categorisation as most Spanish anarcho-syndicalists were members of the CNT and the few left over aren't meaningfully distinct from other categories of Spanish anarchists. Grnrchst (talk) 16:47, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Support, this category just adds clutter AnarchistHistory (talk) 17:24, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Also dual merge?
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Category:Video game franchises by genre

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Nominator's rationale: As Category:Video game series by narrative genre was also renamed, replacing franchise with series, this category should be renamed to match with its subcategories. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 08:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, the merge you have suggested (which isn't related to the renaming of this category) will break the current categorization scheme that has remained static for years. It is necessary since these categories make a border between franchises and other related content to a genre. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:27, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
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Category:Paralympic medalists in athletics (track and field)

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Nominator's rationale: Also, Category:Paralympic gold medalists in athletics (track and field)‎, respectively. Like Category:Olympic medalists in athletics (track and field), this category grows every four years, so being specific is useful, as para athletics is one of the events with the highest number of medals per Game. (CC) Tbhotch 05:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Commment @Tbhotch: I think the rationale doesn't align with your aim so it's worth reflecting on that. Unlike Olympic medalist biographies, most Paralympic medalist biographies are for people who have won multiple Paralympic medals. Often they've won 2 different kinds and frequently all 3 kinds. I plucked the first name in my head Jonnie Peacock and, behold, he has won Paralympic gold, silver and bronze. The end result of a by-medal split will probably be three categories that are maybe 80% of the same articles, which isn't too useful for navigation. I think a by nationality split would be far better for this tree (e.g. Category:Paralympic medalists in athletics (track and field) for Great Britain). SFB 21:46, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Sillyfolkboy's suggestion?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same question: Thoughts on Sillyfolkboy's suggestion?
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Category:Magritte Award winners

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Nominator's rationale: Per WP:COPSEP, we should not have a mix of biographical and non-biographical articles in the same category so this needs to be split somehow. Open to other naming schemes however. --woodensuperman 08:38, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Split per nom. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:38, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Delete?
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Category:Chiropractors by nationality

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Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary additional layer. Category:Chiropractors is already near empty with just three articles and this one subcat, and this subcat only has 11 subcats, so it's not doing much diffusion. Upmerge all subcats to Chiropractors. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Anomalous+0's objection?
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same question: Thoughts on Anomalous+0's objection?
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Category:Video games with alternative versions

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Nominator's rationale: This category is oriented towards a non-defining and trivial trait. The "alternate versions" of the games in question consist of ports with different content or features mostly due to technical restrictions, HD/remastered versions, deluxe/collectors editions, and versions with both intentionally alternate titles and content. As you can see, the criteria for this category is not consistent; there's no way it can be defining, nor a category entitled "Video games with alternate titles in PAL regions". QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:40, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Video games in Hong Kong

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Nominator's rationale: Category:Video gaming in Hong Kong already exists, however this is the only category in the tree of Category:Video gaming by country that hasn't been renamed to match up with the names of other categories.

QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:47, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Asian-American drama films

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Nominator's rationale: Hyphenating heritage such as "Asian-American" or "African-American" doesn't seem to be the standard anymore. AP made this style change in 2019, following other style guides that have done the same. Additionally, this would bring the category in line with the related Wikipedia page titles (eg Asian Americans and Asian American activism). Probably a discussion of removing the hyphen from many related categories to be had, but I'm new to CfD and will try this one first. Thanks. Pingnova (talk) 00:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]