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Discussion for Today
[edit]- This page is transcluded from Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024_September_20
September 20
[edit]NEW NOMINATIONS
[edit]Category:Regional WikiProjects
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Regional WikiProjects to Category:WikiProjects by region
- Nominator's rationale: Even if there is some kind of distinction here, this seems very minimal with a huge overlap (when categorized correctly). Gonnym (talk) 16:46, 12 September 2024 (UTC)≤
- Oppose this way, rather rename Category:WikiProjects by region to Category:WikiProjects by continent per its actual content. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Will the region category still have continent categories? Gonnym (talk) 00:19, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- "by continent" is not quite correct, given "Americas" and "Oceania". Also that runs headlong into disputes about continent definitions. SEWilco (talk) 18:01, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support proposal, as new name seems like a better pattern for the category name. Ambiguity of "regions" term is an advantage for ambiguous needs. SEWilco (talk) 18:06, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:1982 Japanese television episodes
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:1982 Japanese television episodes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2015 German television episodes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2018 German television episodes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose deleting Category:2019 German television episodes (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Nominator's rationale: Categories newly created just to hold redirects. These would be fine if there were actual articles about Japanese or German television episodes from these years to file here, but are not needed just to hold redirects to television series. Bearcat (talk) 15:45, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This has only just been created. Allow a chance for it be populated rather than just delete it straight away. Also what is wrong with a category composed of redirects? --Jameboy (talk) 15:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- "Allow a chance for it to be populated" with what? The content has to exist first, and then the category to contain said content comes second, not vice versa. And the purpose of categories is to help readers find articles, not redirects — so while redirects can be included where appropriate in categories that also contain articles, categories that exist exclusively to hold redirects without articles are done only as hidden project tracking categories, and not as end-user browsing categories. I mean, if we just exhaustively created a redirect from every episode title that has ever existed to the television series it was an episode of, and categorized them all here, then how would that be helpful to a reader at all? Episode categories in the mainspace tree need to contain at least some actual standalone articles about the episodes themselves to be useful, and are simply not needed just to hold redirects. Bearcat (talk) 15:57, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a link to a relevant guideline concerning the above? I looked at WP:ACATR and WP:RCAT and couldn't find anything that would prevent a category from containing only redirects. --Jameboy (talk) 18:17, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- "Allow a chance for it to be populated" with what? The content has to exist first, and then the category to contain said content comes second, not vice versa. And the purpose of categories is to help readers find articles, not redirects — so while redirects can be included where appropriate in categories that also contain articles, categories that exist exclusively to hold redirects without articles are done only as hidden project tracking categories, and not as end-user browsing categories. I mean, if we just exhaustively created a redirect from every episode title that has ever existed to the television series it was an episode of, and categorized them all here, then how would that be helpful to a reader at all? Episode categories in the mainspace tree need to contain at least some actual standalone articles about the episodes themselves to be useful, and are simply not needed just to hold redirects. Bearcat (talk) 15:57, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose This has only just been created. Allow a chance for it be populated rather than just delete it straight away. Also what is wrong with a category composed of redirects? --Jameboy (talk) 15:55, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete, the purpose of categories is navigation between related articles. One can't navigate from redirect to redirect. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- The intro of WP:CAT says that "the central goal of the category system is to provide navigational links to pages in Wikipedia within a hierarchy of categories". To, not between. Pages, not articles. It's true that most redirects aren't categorized in user-facing categories but WP:ACATR does allow for this in some specific circumstances and I think this falls under that. --Jameboy (talk) 20:08, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- In order to use the category system you need to click the category link at the bottom of an article. Which does not work when you are redirected to an article that is not in the category. So "to", sure, but it does not work without "from", hence it is "between". Marcocapelle (talk) 20:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- You can get to Category:1982 Japanese television episodes from Category:1982 in Japanese television. I'm not saying that these categories are helpful, but they're not completely unreachable. jlwoodwa (talk) 04:45, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- You have to be able to get to a category directly from the page you're on, without needing any two-steps through other cawtegories. Bearcat (talk) 17:49, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- In order to use the category system you need to click the category link at the bottom of an article. Which does not work when you are redirected to an article that is not in the category. So "to", sure, but it does not work without "from", hence it is "between". Marcocapelle (talk) 20:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Pentose phosphate pathway
[edit]- Propose deleting Category:Pentose phosphate pathway (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Propose merging Category:Chemokines to Category:Cytokines
- Propose merging Category:Myokines to Category:Cytokines
- Nominator's rationale: Can someone take a look at these category (as well as others by DinosaursLoveExistence (talk · contribs)? I don't know enough chemistry to really evaluate whether this is actually defining or just more examples of non-defining/overcategorization by the same creator. Mason (talk) 01:50, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- The categories are a week old so I presume they have been fully populated by now. Merge Category:Chemokines and Category:Myokines by lack of sufficient content. Probably delete Category:Pentose phosphate pathway, it does not seem a very defining characteristic. If not deleted it should be renamed such that it clearly becomes a set category. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:15, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment, I left a notice at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Molecular_Biology. If this discussion is relisted it would be helpful if the relister would update the link there too. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: I'll drop a more urgent note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Molecular Biology. If there are no further comments in a week, I would close this as unopposed. But I really think the discussion would benefit from subject-matter experts' comments.
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- Categorizing an enzyme or molecule as participating in primary metabolism pathways makes a lot of sense. These metabolic pathways are essentially what powers cellular life and enzymes or molecules are usually described in that context in reliable sources - i.e. these enzymes/molecules are essential to life as they take part in [EXAMPLE] pathway. To me that sounds like a defining trait.
Examples from Wikipedia: Enzyme/molecule Metabolic Pathway Glucose-6-phosphate dehydrogenase Pentose phosphate pathway Pyruvate dehydrogenase complex Citric acid cycle Fructose-bisphosphate aldolase Gluconeogenesis/Calvin cycle/Glycolysis Glucose 6-phosphate Glycolysis/Pentose phosphate pathway
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Category:Films about couples
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Far too broad, and covered by categories for romance films, buddy films, etc. How many films are not about couples? A minority. Clarityfiend (talk) 20:51, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Populated places in the Middle East
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: the Middle East and West Asia are very overlapping. All subcategories are already in Category:Populated places in West Asia. Sakakami (talk) 18:53, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete one of them, per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:07, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - For the reasons I laid out above in regarding Category:Religion in the Middle East etc. Also, please note that the subcat for Egypt is NOT part of Category:Populated places in West Asia. Anomalous+0 (talk) 08:03, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Religion in the Middle East
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Religion in the Middle East to Category:Religion in West Asia
- Propose renaming Category:Religion in the Middle East by city to Category:Religion in West Asia by city
- Propose renaming Category:Christianity in the Middle East by city to Category:Christianity in West Asia by city
- Propose renaming Category:Jews and Judaism in the Middle East by city to Category:Jews and Judaism in West Asia by city
- Propose merging Category:Islam in the Middle East to Category:Islam in West Asia
- Propose renaming Category:Secularism in the Middle East to Category:Secularism in West Asia
- Propose renaming Category:Irreligion in the Middle East to Category:Irreligion in West Asia
- Propose merging Category:Jews and Judaism in the Middle East to Category:Jews and Judaism in West Asia
- Propose merging Category:Christianity in the Middle East to Category:Christianity in West Asia
- Propose merging Category:Bahá'í Faith in the Middle East to Category:Bahá'í Faith in West Asia
- Propose merging Category:Middle Eastern people by religion to Category:West Asian people by religion
- Propose merging Category:Middle Eastern Jews to Category:West Asian Jews
- Propose merging Category:Middle Eastern Muslims to Category:West Asian Muslims
- Propose renaming Category:Middle Eastern Islamists to Category:West Asian Islamists
- Propose merging Category:Middle Eastern Christians to Category:West Asian Christians
- Propose merging Category:Middle Eastern Bahá'ís to Category:West Asian Bahá'ís
- Propose renaming Category:Middle Eastern atheists to Category:West Asian atheists
- Propose renaming Category:Middle Eastern agnostics to Category:West Asian agnostics
- Nominator's rationale: West Asia and the Middle East largely overlap, so we do not need both category trees. It is better to keep West Asia because it is consistent with other subcategories in Category:Religion in Asia by region. Sakakami (talk) 18:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge or reverse merge per nom and rename dependent on the merge direction. There is also this discussion which is still open. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Strongly oppose - The reason these categories "largely overlap" is entirely because the regions themselves "largely overlap". An incovenient fact, perhaps, but a reality that Wikipedia is bound to respect - and that our categories must reflect. (There are many other overlapping category trees that we maintain simply because they reflect aspects of the real world.) Furthermore, the term "Middle East" is well-known to the great majority of readers, who are unlikely to be familiar with the term "West Asia". Anomalous+0 (talk) 07:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:First-person shooter multiplayer online games
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This is a though one, but there are multiple reasons why this long-lasting category might not be as defining as everyone has once thought.
FPSMOGs are not a legitimate sub-genre of first-person shooters, while MMOFPSs considered one and Wikipedia has their own article on it. More importantly, most games in the FPS genre as whole will have online multiplayer, making it even more non-defining. This category isn't an entirely non-diffusing category and is also one of the only categories at the moment combing a genre and multiplayer online games.
This merge may make navigation harder, both the MOGs and FPS categories will contain 35-45 more articles, and that's okay. And besides not every single title that would fit into this category has been added here anyway.
For the subcategories we will instead replace the MMOFPSs category with category:Multiplayer online games and category:First-person shooters by series. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 02:03, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose Multiplayer FPS do seem defining, see here. I think this category is just misnamed which is leading to the confusion. Category:Multiplayer online games needs to be Category:Online multiplayer games and Category:First-person shooter multiplayer online games needs to be Category:Online multiplayer first-person shooters. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:42, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Why Oppose? They are still not so very defining, why would a random IGN source over my several reasons would debunk that? So many games in the genre already have online multiplayer (but then I realized this category is mostly for multiplayer-only games in the genre). And besides there are some titles that would fit into this category that have been just left out and not added such as XDefiant. *:QuantumFoam66 (talk) 15:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- And why only first-person shooters anyway? Why not also have a category for third-person shooter multiplayer online games? That might be another reason a sincerely call the category non-defining. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 18:17, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Why Oppose? They are still not so very defining, why would a random IGN source over my several reasons would debunk that? So many games in the genre already have online multiplayer (but then I realized this category is mostly for multiplayer-only games in the genre). And besides there are some titles that would fit into this category that have been just left out and not added such as XDefiant. *:QuantumFoam66 (talk) 15:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- question. okay, i see that you admit above that yes, there are many games that fall within this genre. ok. so your suggestion is that maybe we do not need a category to indicate them as multiplayer? i thought the category structure can encompass any valid distinctions. but is it truly the case that almost all fps games are multiplayer? if so, then maybe this suggestion would be viable. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:17, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Point of information. Of course many FPS games are MOGs! an MOG game is any game that takes place over a single round, and is not a persistent world. that is exactly what most fps games actually are!! such as Call of Duty, Doom (video game), Battlefield 2, etc etc! are you saying they are not?
- Sm8900 (talk) 15:22, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Military humor in film
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Military humor in film to Category:Military comedy films
- Nominator's rationale: The category groups films by the distinct genre, name of which seems to be established at this point and supported by sources like [1]. And also the parallel category to this is Category:Military comedy television series. Solidest (talk) 14:59, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Presumably, if renamed, the category needs to be purged as well. A comedy film is a stricter criterion than a film with humor. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:40, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Purge in addition to renaming?
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Relisting comment: Also purge?
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Category:Compositions by Alexandre Desplat
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: The category contains only Category:Films scored by Alexandre Desplat and List of awards and nominations received by Alexandre Desplat, the latter of which I removed from Category:Compositions by Alexandre Desplat for being inappriopriate. It now has only one entry, and such categories should be deleted. Mr slav999 (talk) 17:08, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:American convicts who became writers
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Non-defining/narrow intersection between occupation, criminal status, and nationality. Mason (talk) 02:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. This is a defined genre (or "literary phenomenon") which even has its own WP article; see American prison literature.--NapoliRoma (talk) 03:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- The name of the category sounds awkward. What about Category:American prisoner-writers or Category:American prison writers? Marcocapelle (talk) 04:17, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- My original thought was to distinguish from established writers who became imprisoned, or from non-imprisoned writers writing about prisons (an ambiguity I find in the article name).
- I guess if this makes the name too awkward, it could just be spelled out in the category body. NapoliRoma (talk) 22:01, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think an altnerative could be Writers of prison literature. I'd like to broaden the category to any nationality. Mason (talk) 23:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- "Writers of prison literature" is perhaps too broad, because writers who have never been in prison might then be added. But yes, removing "American" from the category name is a good idea. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:34, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think an altnerative could be Writers of prison literature. I'd like to broaden the category to any nationality. Mason (talk) 23:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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Relisting comment: Rename? Broaden while renaming?
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Category:Novels about Go
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Novels about Go to Category:Sports novels and Category:Go books
- Nominator's rationale: Dual merge per WP:NARROWCAT. Omnis Scientia (talk) 17:51, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- Comment, while the category is already in the tree of Category:Sports novels I am not sure if go is a sport. Marcocapelle (talk) 04:50, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle so a single merge to Category:Go books then? Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- That would be ok. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:20, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keeping a distinct subcategory for fictional novels where Go is part of a major plot line separated from non-fiction books about the strategy and/or history of the game makes sense to me. I don't think it should be upmerged, though whether or not it belongs under the sports novels cat as well is a good question. Category:Novels about chess is in both Category:Chess books and the sports novels category. I think Go should follow a similar model. oknazevad (talk) 16:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Oknazevad, the category is small and there aren't a lot of books about the sport of "Go". Omnis Scientia (talk) 13:56, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Marcocapelle so a single merge to Category:Go books then? Omnis Scientia (talk) 09:25, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Films about neuropathology
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Films about neuropathology to Category:Films about diseases and disorders
- Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category Mason (talk) 17:29, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. The proposed merge target fits the article a lot better than the parent category. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:49, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Category:Works about neuropathology The topic is obscure, which is fine. But it's a small set and breaking this down even further by medium is neither necessary nor useful. Andy Dingley (talk) 08:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Neuropathology is the study of disease of nervous system tissue. Neither of the two films is about study. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Quibbling about whether its contents belong in there is an irrelevance to the existence of the category. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Spanish anarcho-syndicalists
[edit]- Propose merging Category:Spanish anarcho-syndicalists to Category:Spanish anarchists
- Nominator's rationale: Redundant categorisation as most Spanish anarcho-syndicalists were members of the CNT and the few left over aren't meaningfully distinct from other categories of Spanish anarchists. Grnrchst (talk) 16:47, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support, this category just adds clutter AnarchistHistory (talk) 17:24, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- If not kept, at least dual merge, also to Category:Anarcho-syndicalists. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:58, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Video game franchises by genre
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Video game franchises by genre to Category:Video game series by genre
- Nominator's rationale: As Category:Video game series by narrative genre was also renamed, replacing franchise with series, this category should be renamed to match with its subcategories. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 08:37, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and merge its subcategories into their parent categories (i.e. Category:Fighting games by series into Category:Fighting games). This is an unnecessary cross-categorization and things should simply be a member of both "Video game franchises" and the genre they belong to. There's no real reason to split off the series/franchises besides some random person's desire to categorize more than necessary. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:55, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose, the merge you have suggested (which isn't related to the renaming of this category) will break the current categorization scheme that has remained static for years. It is necessary since these categories make a border between franchises and other related content to a genre. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 22:27, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Paralympic medalists in athletics (track and field)
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Also, Category:Paralympic gold medalists in athletics (track and field), respectively. Like Category:Olympic medalists in athletics (track and field), this category grows every four years, so being specific is useful, as para athletics is one of the events with the highest number of medals per Game. (CC) Tbhotch™ 05:37, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Commment @Tbhotch: I think the rationale doesn't align with your aim so it's worth reflecting on that. Unlike Olympic medalist biographies, most Paralympic medalist biographies are for people who have won multiple Paralympic medals. Often they've won 2 different kinds and frequently all 3 kinds. I plucked the first name in my head Jonnie Peacock and, behold, he has won Paralympic gold, silver and bronze. The end result of a by-medal split will probably be three categories that are maybe 80% of the same articles, which isn't too useful for navigation. I think a by nationality split would be far better for this tree (e.g. Category:Paralympic medalists in athletics (track and field) for Great Britain). SFB 21:46, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Magritte Award winners
[edit]- Propose splitting Category:Magritte Award winners to Category:Magritte Award winners and Category:Magritte Award winning films
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:COPSEP, we should not have a mix of biographical and non-biographical articles in the same category so this needs to be split somehow. Open to other naming schemes however. --woodensuperman 08:38, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Split per nom. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:38, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Split or delete, the latter per WP:OCAWARD. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:00, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Split or Delete Certainly split per WP:COPSEP if kept. Awards that describe themselves as the equivalent Nobel Prize or the equivalent of an Olympic medal are really saying they aspire to be that defining but aren't, at least not yet. The Magritte Awards article describes this as "the Belgian equivalent of the Academy Awards" but the Academy Awards article doesn't mention the Margritte. - RevelationDirect (talk) 02:23, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
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Category:Chiropractors by nationality
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: Unnecessary additional layer. Category:Chiropractors is already near empty with just three articles and this one subcat, and this subcat only has 11 subcats, so it's not doing much diffusion. Upmerge all subcats to Chiropractors. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 10:30, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge per nom. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:58, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - I see nothing wrong with this Category. If there were only 3 or 4 subcats I would probably agree with the nom. But it also provides upward navigation to Category:Health professionals by nationality. And several of those sibling cats have a comparable number of subcats. Anomalous+0 (talk) 10:11, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Thoughts on Anomalous+0's objection?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 15:51, 12 September 2024 (UTC)Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Same question: Thoughts on Anomalous+0's objection?
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 16:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Anomalous; I think 11 subcats is plenty for a separate container. Charlotte (Queen of Hearts • talk) 20:45, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Video games with alternative versions
[edit]- Nominator's rationale: This category is oriented towards a non-defining and trivial trait. The "alternate versions" of the games in question consist of ports with different content or features mostly due to technical restrictions, HD/remastered versions, deluxe/collectors editions, and versions with both intentionally alternate titles and content. As you can see, the criteria for this category is not consistent; there's no way it can be defining, nor a category entitled "Video games with alternate titles in PAL regions". QuantumFoam66 (talk) 01:40, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete A total mess that can mean many different things. It's virtually impossible to categorize them all. Technically any game that has gotten an update has "alternative versions". ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 09:40, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Video games in Hong Kong
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Video games in Hong Kong to Category:Video gaming in Hong Kong
- Nominator's rationale: Category:Video gaming in Hong Kong already exists, however this is the only category in the tree of Category:Video gaming by country that hasn't been renamed to match up with the names of other categories.
QuantumFoam66 (talk) 00:47, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. This could have been listed at Speedy. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:06, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Category:Asian-American drama films
[edit]- Propose renaming Category:Asian-American drama films to Category:Asian American drama films
- Nominator's rationale: Hyphenating heritage such as "Asian-American" or "African-American" doesn't seem to be the standard anymore. AP made this style change in 2019, following other style guides that have done the same. Additionally, this would bring the category in line with the related Wikipedia page titles (eg Asian Americans and Asian American activism). Probably a discussion of removing the hyphen from many related categories to be had, but I'm new to CfD and will try this one first. Thanks. Pingnova (talk) 00:36, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- This would require a mass nomination top down from Category:Asian-American culture. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:10, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- OK, how would I do that? Thanks. Pingnova (talk) 15:33, 20 September 2024 (UTC)